Rick's Cafe Americain

So I was slumming over at Grape Nuts’ site, and I was intrigued by what I found in the comments to a short post about discussions re: canceling elections in case of terrorist attack.  Here are some snippets of what the Bloggers for Bush had to say:

Note to Blogs For Bush: There have been several orders of magnitude more
meteoric impacts than there have been terrorist attacks on American soil.
Heck, there have been more cometary impacts.

-?????

So are you saying that the terrorists control outer space?

- Ugarte

Hmm.

“invading Iraq did not dissuade or even disrupt the terrorists;”

dissuade...no, but then again what can you do to dissuade people who are
willing to die for thier cause.

disrupt...Yes.

“Iraq can secure its own boarder and prevent the movement of people and
goods between two terror friendly countries.”

from http://sandcastlesandcubicles.blogspot.com/2004/07/terrorist-nature-vol-3.h
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-cube

Well, hey, cube, you be sure and let us know as soon as Iraq secures those
“boarders”. 

Now that you mention it, I do believe I remember reading that those 15
hijackers from Saudi Arabia took connecting flights from Baghdad right
before using Iraqi-purchased box cutters to take down the planes.

No, wait, I didn’t.

- Rick Blaine

You know, Rick, I’ve thought you were boring, unfunny and unoriginal before
but I never thought you were a dick (even when you ran your hilarious poll
to see if I was rich or stupid).  Your comment to Cube making fun of his
spelling corrected that.  Thanks.

- Karol

Actually, Cheerios, I thought the typo was funny because of the unintended
double-meaning, but what I was making fun of was the idea that Iraq’s
borders are “secure”.  I’m sure cube can handle it.

And if he can’t (or you can’t), well, this is MY house.

- Rick Blaine

Yeah, but we’ve already learned all about what you think is funny. 
I’m sure Cube can handle it but since you love talking to me via
your site, I’m sure you can handle my comment.

- Karol

Rick! Go back to your studying. (Or, if you are going to procrastinate, work
on the Mozilla flaws.)

- Ugarte

They’re not “flaws”, they’re “beauty marks”.

- Rick Blaine

actually i can’t handle it, i think that i am going to cry ;).

note: i did not say they have already secured thier own boarders, i said
they can. 

think american CIA drones or they could by some tech from the jews.

secondly, it may be a bad idea to lock the country down, then we might
actually do some good on the war on terrorism.

- cube

Sigh.  Let’s try to break it down, shall we?

My point: The invasion of Iraq did nothing to dissuade or disrupt
the terrorists (primarily because they weren’t there).

Your point: Someday, somehow (perhaps with help from Jack Ryan* or
the Elders of Zion), Iraq will one day be magically able to secure its
borders.  Not only will this make Iraq a very fun place to live, but it
will, you cliam, “prevent the movement of people and goods between two
terror friendly countries.”

You don’t actually name the two countries, but I assume one of them is
Iran.  The same Iran to which terrorists fled when we invaded Afghanistan. 
The same Iran that has borders with Turkey, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan (are
we magically sealing that one up, too?), and Pakistan?  The same Iran with
access to the Persian Gulf and a clear shot accross same to Saudi Arabia? 

You also don’t explain why you think Iraq’s borders are critical to
international terrorism.  Since Iran and Iraq were hardly on friendly terms
before the invasion, I would venture to say that it has been much
easier for Iran to access Syria or Saudi Arabia through Iraq than it
was before.  After the lockdown, I guess they’ll have to go back to however
they did it before the invasion.  Like in 2001.

One final note:  “the jews” are not an amorphous collective of electronics
salesmen, despite what you might have seen on TV.  If you mean Israel, say
Israel.  If you actually meant “the jews”, I’d be happy to welcome you to
the 21st century, but you’ll have to give up going to the Klan meetings,
Bubba.

* Not the kinky erstwhile Republican senatorial candidate, but the
fictional CIA operative.

-- Rick Blaine

sorry i did not get back to you sooner.

my point: terrorist may have not been there in Iraq before the war (I happen
to belive that they were) but they are there and active now.  And steps need
to be taken to prevent the movement of goods and materials between terrorist
oganzations, the best way to do that is secure Iraq’s boarders, which while
it is not done yet.  They have asked Nato to help with that exact goal.  I
am sure once they handle their own particlar brand of problems they will
work on the boarders.

secondly, i did not point out a lot of things in the earlier post, because i
linked to them.  though it was to myself, I can provide many more if you
like.

“ “the jews” are not an amorphous collective of electronics salesmen,
despite what you might have seen on TV.  If you mean Israel, say Israel.”

i only choose “the jews” because i woud have misspelt isreal

and my name is not bubba...but you can call me that if you like

Thank you for this excellent interview. Achewood is my favorite! ))